In response to Debora's post about her Opata ancestor Francisco Martinez: Apaches whom I have met say that their ancestors went on "campaigns" in Sonora to...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
2 de Oct, 2005 3:42 am
Debora, Here's the link to the town of Santa Ana (not Santana) that I took from the "Enlaces" section. That link has a link to apply for birth certificates,...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
2 de Oct, 2005 3:53 am
Santa Ana link: http://www.sonora.gob.mx/portal/RunScript.asp? page=227&p=ASP\Pg227.asp ... Sonora ... needs ... fierce ... town ... Spanish ... full...
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K Alcala
kalcala@...
2 de Oct, 2005 11:40 pm
I am friends with a Chirachua Apache here in Seattle, and we joke that we are probably related. The Opata and Apache stole each other's children on a regular...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
3 de Oct, 2005 7:54 am
Kathleen wrote: "According to Views, the Opata eventually became allies with the early Spaniards because they offered protection against the Apache, who were...
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K Alcala
kalcala@...
3 de Oct, 2005 7:09 pm
Thanks, Ricardo. I think the reason I need to think of the whole thing more organically, is because otherwise, people put the onus all on the Apache. It is a...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
4 de Oct, 2005 2:47 am
Here is an informative link on the Apaches, Kathleen, which touches in part on their relations with the Pueblo peoples: http://www.crystalinks.com/apache.html ...
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K Alcala
kalcala@...
5 de Oct, 2005 2:50 am
Thanks. This is very interesting, and a good overview. KA ... From: "Ricardo Tánori" <opatasunidos@...> To: <opatasunidos@...> Sent:...
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quitoyou
7 de Oct, 2005 6:05 pm
Hi All! Good news. The Opatas.com website has now been added to the Native Web website. I've been trying for a while now to get it added to this site as well...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
8 de Oct, 2005 10:39 pm
I took your advice, Christina, by joining Native Web and submitting this group to their list. Hopefully our actions will prompt them to add "Opata" to their...
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moomomthefirst
13 de Oct, 2005 5:39 am
Recibi mucha informacion muy buena de sus respuestas. Voy a indagar mas sobre el asunto... me han dicho que eran los Apache Kiowa quienes llevaron a mi...
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moomomthefirst
13 de Oct, 2005 5:53 am
I stand corrected. Thanks to Richard for the link and to Kathleen for other information on the background of the apache migration south. I did find through the...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
13 de Oct, 2005 10:29 pm
Debora, I have a Kiowa friend named Red Bird who is originally from the Kiowa rez in Oklahoma. He is married to a Luiseño woman and lives on her rez in...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
13 de Oct, 2005 10:43 pm
Since Debora indicated that she would like to post the photo of her Opata grandmother and siblings on here, I have created an "ancestors/antepasados"; folder in...
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moomomthefirst
14 de Oct, 2005 12:51 am
The last link you posted is also full of interesting info. I think it is a great idea to post photos. I also checked out the ones you had posted. I...
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K Alcala
prietita9
14 de Oct, 2005 3:15 am
Well, with the help of my brilliant son, I can finally view the photos! I was just receiving the e-mail, but Yahoo did not recognize me as a member. When I get...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
22 de Oct, 2005 6:26 am
I have begun construction of these in the "Archivos"; section. I will be adding a few words to them almost every day. It's an easy way to gradually increase...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
25 de Oct, 2005 1:19 am
A few more words and names have been added to the "Vocabularly" file today. If you know of or come across any Opatan names that are not already on the list,...
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konnchys
27 de Oct, 2005 1:27 am
ME ENCANTA QUE EXISTA ESTE GRUPO, TAMBIEN SOY DESCENDIENTE OPATA, NACI Y VIVO EN VILLA HIDALGO, SONORA, ANTES OPUTO, ACTUALMENTE TRABAJO PARA EL MUNICIPIO Y...
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konnchys
27 de Oct, 2005 2:20 am
LEYENDA SOBRE LA FUNDACION DE OPUTO Por: Néstor Fierros Moreno En el Estado de Sonora, el Noroeste y aproximadamente a 300 Kms. de Hermosillo existe un pueblo...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
27 de Oct, 2005 5:56 am
¡Bienvenida a nuestro grupo, María, y felicidades por ser nuestra primera integrante que vive en el país Opata! También mil gracias por compartir la...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
27 de Oct, 2005 11:52 pm
Frontera News Service, which is a project of New Mexico State University, provides free U.S./Mexico border region news in English by e-mail at least several...
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K Alcala
prietita9
28 de Oct, 2005 12:11 am
This is extremely wonderful. it has all the elements of a typical story of this region - the two children, Apaches, gold, sorcery. Thanks so much. Kathleen ......
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
29 de Oct, 2005 9:14 pm
The link to the legend has also been posted in the "Enlaces" Opata websites section. The text has been posted in the "Archivos"; leyendas section. Here is the...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
29 de Oct, 2005 10:04 pm
The link is to a page of a website about the history of the Piman town of Tubac, Arizona. It includes a list of a company of Opata scouts who were stationed...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
30 de Oct, 2005 12:05 am
When I first went to Opata country I was told by primos and elders that our land is still rich in unexploited gold and silver, and that they want to keep it...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
30 de Oct, 2005 12:10 am
The link on the previous post didn't turn out well, so just go to the "Reading List" in "Enlaces" and click on, "Sierra Madre and Bronze Guards" to access the...
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Ricardo Tánori
opatasunidos
31 de Oct, 2005 7:48 pm
EL PUEBLO DE OPUTO "EN EL TIEMPO Y EN LA HISTORIA" Por: Nestor Fierros Moreno. Antes de irnos a recordar la historia de nuestro pueblo, vamos a hacer, un...
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K Alcala
prietita9
1 de Nov, 2005 12:17 am
This is a picture of my bisabuela, Pastora Curiel Martinez. She was probably born between 1865 and 1870 in Rayon, Sonora, and died about 1899 in Nogales,...
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zecope
1 de Nov, 2005 2:18 am
"Opotho u Opothu se transformó durante la Conquista en Oputho, tomando dicho nombre por un manchón de ''palo fierro" que hay en la parte occidental del...
