Greetings:
1956 MCC student Jackie Hunter is looking for her room mate, Ginny
Heitz (Ginny Marque). Her email follows:
"I attended MCC in 1956. I was a pre_med student at Northwestern
University. I wanted to learn Spanish, so my roommate Ginny Heitz and
I enrolled in (MCC). We lived with a very wealthy family in La Lomas.
I think he made his money in cement.
Mexico City was lovely, at that time, there were no traffic lights
just men with white gloves standing in the rotaries directing
traffic. The skies were navy blue.
I feel in love with a fellow student William Haas and we were married
at the Hotel Reforma. He was a Korean war veteran and was at MCC on
the GI bill.
Looking back, my year at MCC was one of the best of my life. I feel
in love with Mexico and now live in Ajijic near Guadalajara.
Sadly, I have lost touch with Ginny Heitz. I know she married a
Mexican boy named Mark Marque. I wonder if you know were she might be.
Thanks for bringing back such a wonderful time in my life (re.
mexicocitycollege.com).
Sincerely,
Jaynette Landis aka Jackie Hunter in 1956"
Posted by Joseph Quinn
On Nov 20, 2006, at 1:43 PM, quinnjm wrote:
> Norman has also posted a 7-part account of his MCC and UofA days, and
> can be access at his "Norman's Isla Weblog":
Great stuff. Thanks for these links.
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Hi all from Ixmiquilpan, al fin! Bienvenidos a Brad and others who
have joined since I've been away. We got here just in time for a
cold wave and have all the heaters going. We had expected to go
swimming in our many albercas on arrival. Chatter, chatter! I am
beginning to look at the many messages that are lined up (not
counting lots of other stuff in the box). I did get to read J.Q.'s
lovely work all about us in those times past. "Very proud of you,
son!¨ My worst news, "we're with heavy hearts" here. Our good friend
and the guy who sort of prodded me to create this grupo back in
2000, passed away about a month ago while we were away. We thereby
make him an honorary member!!! con permiso de Uds., of course! We
did have the easiest border crossing ever--no one, but no one
stopped us going south. And it was rather easy going north, although
they have all their cameras trained on you while the computers
digest the information. Our biggest molestia was updating Emilia's
green card which was supposed to be for life. It expired, but
fortunately not her life! The Fed building has great concrete blocks
out front, presumably for growing trees, and that's where you sit
since they have no waiting room, nor anyplace to check your baggage.
Then you creep in in your bare feet, and there is no great feeling
of being welcome. Later mail petitions, a big pocketful of money, no
answers, no time schedules, and finally (if your lucky?) the
biometric exam--actually finger prints, a photo, and more data--but
no shave and a haircut, two bits, thank you mam! It took an hour to
get my wife's prints--at hour age there is nothing left on the
fingers, besides, she had been peeling English walnuts and the
electronic fingerprint machines are just not programed for that! We
had some other exciting adventures, like Arizona motels too, but
that will have to saves. What did we find when we got here? Well,
the excitement grows! Obrador was designated the legitiment
president of Mexico by his followers, and the TV is full of
political, historical and other analysts along with a wealth of
scholars trying unravel all of this. One group last night, ranked
Pres. Fox with a big zero for his leadership these last six years.
There is some attempted comparison between the PRD move yesterday
and the presidential inaugration on Dec. 1, with the famous "tragic
days" between the assassinations of Madero and Piña Suarez and
usurptation of power by Huerta in 1913. Someone else told me that we
had a great upheaval in 1810, then again in 1910, and we are due for
another in 2010, only three years away. Corrida composers are tired
of singing about problems at the border! We need a new "big one,"!!!
Anyway, albeit there is considerably more violence, it is nothing
like they are picturing it in the U.S., so don't give up your
vacation, at least not yet! Certainly, we are not in a state of
chaos like some would like you to think. The weekend is just over
and apart from the cold, we had the normal noisy fiestas and
blasting fireworks. Pues, que tengen una muy buena (depending on
your time zone)and thanks, Oso del Norte and Ana for your gracious
hopitality!!! Mike
I would like to hear from Jackie about living conditions in Ajijic (a place I
always wanted to visit)
anamo@...
Les
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Again my little blurb re MCC has disappeared from Wikipedia's MCC
page; please put it back, as I, because of an AOL address, cannot
edit the text of the entry these days:
HISTORY
Alpha:
Mexico City College, a truly unique institution of post-secondary
education, was founded in 1940. Located in and later on the outskirts
of Mexico City, it was accredited in the United States. Students from
all parts of the U.S. and around the globe attended it, along with a
growing local student body. It would be re-named as the University of
the Americas, then the Universidad de las Americas, followed by its
move to Puebla, and later divided into two distinct, separate
institutions, one still in Puebla (Universidad de las Americas-
Puebla, UDLAP) and one back in Mexico City (UDLA, A.C.).
Omega:
For many of its alumni, MCC was a turning point in their lives, a set
of key experiences and fraternal connections that continue to be
significant to this day. The college is gone, an economics
investigational institution in its place on the now frantic Mexico-
Toluca Highway, and Cuajimalpa, the rustic village that was a haven
for the "beatnik and bohemian fringe," is now its own metropolis, as
crowded as Mexico City. The spirit of MCC, though, lives on in the
creative, irreverent and iconoclastic views of its alumni…some of
which can be read and seen (in fotos) in this and other related sites
(check enlaces) on the web.
Amigos y amigas,
May I be so rude as to suggest that when posting new fotos, that
you also post a note here identifying the archive where they may be
found...it would save a lot of fumbling around searching for them, at
least for a demented senior citizen as tu servidor, Jed
On Nov 29, 2006, at 5:40 PM, jedlinde wrote:
> Amigos y amigas,
> May I be so rude as to suggest that when posting new fotos, that
> you also post a note here identifying the archive where they may be
> found...it would save a lot of fumbling around searching for them, at
> least for a demented senior citizen as tu servidor, Jed
I am always glad to help out a demented servidor -- hoping someone
else might do the same for me -- but I dont understand what you mean
by "the archive". The only way I know to post fotos is to attach them
to a message to the group. In fact I'm not even sure about that.
Which reminds me, I was going to post the few fotos I have from the
days of '58 and '59. I kick myself everyday that I didnt take more
fotos back then. It was partly a case of usually not having much
money and partly the youthful lack of recognizing the fleetingness of
everything.
Dennis Kiernan
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--- En mexicocitycollege@..., Dennis Kiernan
<jdkiernan@...> escribió:
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2006, at 5:40 PM, jedlinde wrote:
>
> > Amigos y amigas,
> > May I be so rude as to suggest that when posting new fotos, that
> > you also post a note here identifying the archive where they may
be
> > found...it would save a lot of fumbling around searching for
them, at
> > least for a demented senior citizen as tu servidor, Jed
>
> I am always glad to help out a demented servidor -- hoping someone
> else might do the same for me -- but I dont understand what you
mean
> by "the archive". The only way I know to post fotos is to attach
them
> to a message to the group. In fact I'm not even sure about that.
>
> Which reminds me, I was going to post the few fotos I have from
the
> days of '58 and '59. I kick myself everyday that I didnt take more
> fotos back then. It was partly a case of usually not having much
> money and partly the youthful lack of recognizing the fleetingness
of
> everything.
>
> Dennis Kiernan
>
> [Se han eliminado los trozos de este mensaje que no contenían texto]
>
Estimado Dionisio,
I'm probably the last person on this planet to comment on your
questions, but here goes: In the "Fotos" section you will find a
series of "albumes," each one with its own title, etc. Some members
have several of them, so even if you know who posted the new pics,
you don't know in which album...? Clear as mud?
The irony of all this, is that I've yet to be able to put one foto
in the album I opened...LOL!
As far as know (not that far), you cannot post anything in a Yahoo
grupo with an attachment to it...fotos, have to be placed in the foto
section...in an album that you create...
Saludos, Jed
On Nov 29, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Dennis Kiernan wrote:
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OK. I guess that takes care of my idea of attaching fotos. I'll have
to go check out the group's FAQs or protocols or whatever they're
called.
Disregard anything I may have said recently.
Dennis
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--- En mexicocitycollege@..., Dennis Kiernan
<jdkiernan@...> escribió:
>>
> On Nov 29, 2006, at 5:40 PM, jedlinde wrote:
>
> > Amigos y amigas,
> > May I be so rude as to suggest that when posting new fotos, that
> > you also post a note here identifying the archive where they may be
> > found...it would save a lot of fumbling around searching for them, at
> > least for a demented senior citizen as tu servidor, Jed
>
> I am always glad to help out a demented servidor -- hoping someone
> else might do the same for me -- but I dont understand what you mean
> by "the archive". The only way I know to post fotos is to attach them
> to a message to the group. In fact I'm not even sure about that.
>
> Which reminds me, I was going to post the few fotos I have from the
> days of '58 and '59. I kick myself everyday that I didnt take more
> fotos back then. It was partly a case of usually not having much
> money and partly the youthful lack of recognizing the fleetingness of
> everything.
>
> Dennis Kiernan
>
> [Se han eliminado los trozos de este mensaje que no contenían texto]
>
..............................
Hola Alumiados/adas,
Pues, Jed, it couldn't have been me you were talking about. I've tried
always to send a message telling where my latest picture offerings are
placed, lately behind the Virgin of Guadalupe's banner, but also this
site has been telling people somewhere on the page when new photos are
placed. I just happened to see the Noticia when I think Hector placed
some.
And as you've suggested, In the past I also asked our fellow members
to get off their dime and open this place up with their stories,
pictures, paintings, etc. Only a very few have done more than sign in,
and just lurk. There are over 50 members, and less than 10 have ever
said or submitted anything. It's getting really busy in the net these
days, and maybe we're all getting besotted with overkill on reading
other's stuff, but it would really be nice, if each one of us, that
hasn't done so, tell us a little about your own experiences while
attending MCC or the big U.of A. Could it be that some have forgotten
how to read Cristiano? I know it took me a month of Sundays before I
deciphered the instructions for submitting pictures. Is it possible
that this could be a truly bi-lingual site? Or is that what keeps us
unique(and limited in membership and participation)?
I'm still scanning pictures I took back in the '50s and '60s, and have
high hopes to unearth some more Mexico pictures. I did place a few a
month or so ago. I never know if anyone ever sees them, since there's
not much acknowledgment from most of us, but that's how the internet
goes. It's a magic time for all of us that had to change ribbons,
return carriages, use whiteout, paper, and strong keystrokes. I love
the fantastic opportunities that computers have given me, to fix a
picture in 10 minutes, something that I couldn't do in two days lab
time, and best of all chemical free.
We're breathtakingly rapidly riding on the crest of a realllly big
futureshock wave, something I've been looking forward to since 1970
when my color lab prof said that all this stinking and caustic
chemical stuff would be replaced with 3 cents worth of electricity,
and said it would happen within 10 years. He was a couple of decades
early, but I waited patiently for it all to happen. I was able tonight
to design a CD label for my son's music, starting out with just a
normal photo, and with Photoshop 4 and Elements, do a passable job
that he will be able to use.
Do you mean by archive, the title of the folder where you place the
photos, after clicking the FOTOS sign on the left of the page?
Sorry to hear about your close call on the icy highway. That reminds
me of when my sister and I were returning from a successful poker trip
to Reno, and she did a 360 on a frozen mountain road. Since I was
sitting sideways and could see front and back, I grabbed the wheel
when we were heading again in the right direction, and forced us back
on the path. She never forgave me for meddling, but I'd been telling
her for an hour to please slow down since I wanted to live.
Dennis, you aren't able to accompany your photos with your emails. You
have to open Fotos, create a folder, and download JPEGs, not too high
a resolution. I'm looking foreward to seeing them.
If you have any questions on how to post them, I think I've got it
down finally, and would be glad to assist you. My email is:
elnido13@...
Aloha, Ricardo
To fellow alumnus,
I apologize for not mentioning what a fantastic bunch of stories that
Norman Bradley wrote, and after reading only three of them, was so
blown away by the quality of the writing, that I haven't looked at my
own book in progress since. Prof. Bradley, you and I traveled some of
the same backroads, at similar times, and had some similar revelations
about that place called Mejico. If I ever finish my humble effort,
I'll send you a copy, but you really made me ashamed at my lack of
descriptive narrative and intelligent observations. It's time for me
to go back to school and learn how to write. I did, however, take an
awful(some of there are) lot of fotos in my life, and was hoping to be
able to space them throughout, wrapping the text around the pictures,
making cutlines unnecessary. It's time for me to finish the other
chapters, and I highly recommend the other members here, to read them,
if you haven't already. They're really a highly entertaining and
educational trip back in time, and verrry interesting!
By the way, the paintings are unreal, fantastic, highly worth checking
out.
Ricardo
The site lists six new photographs, that was what I was referring
to...if there was a post regarding where to see them, I never got it,
nor do I find one in the archive of this month's posts... Jed
On Nov 29, 2006, at 11:51 PM, Richard wrote:
> Dennis, you aren't able to accompany your photos with your emails. You
> have to open Fotos, create a folder, and download JPEGs, not too high
> a resolution. I'm looking foreward to seeing them.
Actually, the big problem I'm having now is scanning them. The
scanner program keeps quitting on me and I cant track down the cause.
I agree with you about the whole new world opened up by the computer,
even for 19th century types like me. But the technology is incredibly
complicated, much harder to understand than the old darkroom
chemicals or printing plates. I have no idea what 90% of the stuff on
my hard drive even is.
The other big problem with the computer world is that everybody has
to keep upgrading as the technology advances and it develops at an
astonishing rate. And it's a fulltime job keeping up. In the paper
and pencil world, if you want to stick to oak panels and hide glue
while everybody else goes on to something else you can.
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Hello Seniors y señores, Ladies,
Didn't mean to stir up so much commotion on the topic of fotos. I
recently loaded 5 pics to the foto album of "Mike" aka Sr. Don, from
his younger days in Mexico, also aka "my dad." Don't know about the
6th one. I too have seen some of Ricardo's foto shoots in
phosphorescent colors. Next time I will advise location of fotos.
Folks have a good Weekend. H.
Greetings:
"The Mexico City College Story: The History 1940-1963" has been listed
on the Ontario Institute for Studies in Education, the University of
Toronto, website,titled
"The History of Education: Selected Momnents of the 20th Century."
The MCC History, condensed down to a 1/3 of original size (for space
restraints) can be accessed at:
http://fcis.oise.utoronto.ca/~daniel_sch/assignment1/1940mexicocitycolle
ge.html
The original version, with references and Notes, is at
www.mexicocitycollege.com
Quinn
Greetings:
Dr. Nora Lustig, the former president of UDLAP (2001-2005) has sent me
a copy of her Farewell Speech ( a State of Affairs speech), delivered
in December, 2005. She requested I include same in the Mexico City
College history. I responded that my history was on MCC, not UDLAP,
and that I had included info on UDLAP only to point the direction MCC
was headed. I did include a couple of sentences in the body of the
history (i.e. "the UDLAP is one of the most prestigious private
universities in Mexico and is internationally recognized as such.").
And I did include the complete speech at the end of my history, as Note
M, as I believe it may be of interest to some. The changes were
uploaded the other day.
For those who wish a copy directly, I can email same as a pdf. file.
Quinn
Hola a los algunos vivos,
Pues, Ricardo, no hablaba de nadie en particular...no sabia quien
puso las fotos, no?
Paranoia? As a friend said 40 years ago in Berzerkley..."Who
needs the para, when you have the noia?"
Seriously, really enjoyed your post (below), Ricardo. Good to
hear that your magnum opus is progressing (mine is in wraps while I
deal with the vicissitudes of everyday life).
Lately, though, I've been sorting through a lifetime of
middens...and found a letter from Richard Crowley, mailed in Bali,
with an Australia return address, in 1974 (he had just visited us in
San Francisco) thanking me for cashing a check (have no memory of
this) or he would have ended up penniless in Bali. (From Australia,
he went on to end up in Dharmsala, India, and a horrific case of
hepatitis, turning up at our Carmel Valley house four years later,
his hair all white).
Mountains of memorabilia have caused me to reconfigure my past
and opinions of some people...much improved images in my shattered
neurons nowadays..
Anyway, send me your steps to posting a picture at this site,
please.
One minor gripe..."To find your way in the immensity of the
universe, you must separate and also unite." In short, the hairy
experience was not posted here, it came in a private email...
Saludos Compa' (you still owe me an email), J. Jed
--- En mexicocitycollege@..., "Richard"
<ricardodeaqui@...> escribió:
>
> Hola Alumiados/adas,
>
> Pues, Jed, it couldn't have been me you were talking about. I've
tried
> always to send a message telling where my latest picture offerings
are
> placed, lately behind the Virgin of Guadalupe's banner, but also
this
> site has been telling people somewhere on the page when new photos
are
> placed. I just happened to see the Noticia when I think Hector
placed
> some.
>
> And as you've suggested, In the past I also asked our fellow members
> to get off their dime and open this place up with their stories,
> pictures, paintings, etc. Only a very few have done more than sign
in,
> and just lurk. There are over 50 members, and less than 10 have ever
> said or submitted anything. It's getting really busy in the net
these
> days, and maybe we're all getting besotted with overkill on reading
> other's stuff, but it would really be nice, if each one of us, that
> hasn't done so, tell us a little about your own experiences while
> attending MCC or the big U.of A. Could it be that some have
forgotten
> how to read Cristiano? I know it took me a month of Sundays before I
> deciphered the instructions for submitting pictures. Is it possible
> that this could be a truly bi-lingual site? Or is that what keeps us
> unique(and limited in membership and participation)?
>
> I'm still scanning pictures I took back in the '50s and '60s, and
have
> high hopes to unearth some more Mexico pictures. I did place a few a
> month or so ago. I never know if anyone ever sees them, since
there's
> not much acknowledgment from most of us, but that's how the internet
> goes. It's a magic time for all of us that had to change ribbons,
> return carriages, use whiteout, paper, and strong keystrokes. I love
> the fantastic opportunities that computers have given me, to fix a
> picture in 10 minutes, something that I couldn't do in two days lab
> time, and best of all chemical free.
>
> We're breathtakingly rapidly riding on the crest of a realllly big
> futureshock wave, something I've been looking forward to since 1970
> when my color lab prof said that all this stinking and caustic
> chemical stuff would be replaced with 3 cents worth of electricity,
> and said it would happen within 10 years. He was a couple of decades
> early, but I waited patiently for it all to happen. I was able
tonight
> to design a CD label for my son's music, starting out with just a
> normal photo, and with Photoshop 4 and Elements, do a passable job
> that he will be able to use.
>
> Do you mean by archive, the title of the folder where you place the
> photos, after clicking the FOTOS sign on the left of the page?
>
> Sorry to hear about your close call on the icy highway. That reminds
> me of when my sister and I were returning from a successful poker
trip
> to Reno, and she did a 360 on a frozen mountain road. Since I was
> sitting sideways and could see front and back, I grabbed the wheel
> when we were heading again in the right direction, and forced us
back
> on the path. She never forgave me for meddling, but I'd been telling
> her for an hour to please slow down since I wanted to live.
>
> Dennis, you aren't able to accompany your photos with your emails.
You
> have to open Fotos, create a folder, and download JPEGs, not too
high
> a resolution. I'm looking foreward to seeing them.
>
> If you have any questions on how to post them, I think I've got it
> down finally, and would be glad to assist you. My email is:
> elnido13@...
>
> Aloha, Ricardo
>
Hola Jed y estimados miembros,
I'm going to try to walk myself through the photo process, so am
writing this on a separate email at the time I do it, then will paste
in the stuff.
..................
First of all, the photo must be scanned into your computer. I suggest
sending it to Photoshop, but whatever it takes to get a JPEG photo
eventually. Best to scan in photoshop at high res., then make a copy,
medium resolution, in JPEG. Okay, I'm going to send the picture I have
on my desktop to the Virgin of Guadalupe ALBUM, after, going to the
MCC site, signing in, I select the topic FOTOS on the left(must be
signed in for it to work). You already have a blank album, so don't
need to go to crear album. For those that want to do that, I can open
that up later to see what's shakin'.
I want to hit the button ANADIR FOTO, then if it were a previously
named album it would be showing in the first box; if not click on
ANADIR A UN ALBUM NUEVO
After giving it the name of your album, if you don't anyone messing
with the pic, click on PERSONAL. If you don't fill in the Nombre foto:
slot, it will use the id of the photo on your computer.
Notice that after you're done, you have to hit the ANADIR button when
you're finished.
Try one, then later fill up all 5 slots of pictures. Good luck! If
there are any glitches, email me separately, and after we fix them,
can report back to the group. By the time you get this email, there
should be a new foto in my Virgin de Guadalupe album. Since there were
69 fotos there already, it's at ULTIMO. For those interested in the
plastico surgery, I first of all sent the foto back to an earlier
version of Photoshop (4) where there was a button called adjust curves
(can't say exactly how to recreate it since it's just moving a slider
back and forth, up and down 'til I get what looks appropriate. Then I
put it back in Photoshop Elements, added text, border, and a few other
filters, and you wouldn't recognize the original. Maybe I should send
it too. Okay, I'll do it.
Come on Quinn or Sam, jump in here and teach us all some advanced
lessons. I know you both know a lot more about how to whip this little
foto page into shape, and make it more accessible to those who are
computer challenged, like meself.
And Birdnoir, any new paintings to share? Nell, would you send us
some of Danny's mystical writings? We could all use some mysticism in
these perilous times. Anybody else have some art or fotos to show us?
Your family, trip, no importa, ud. manda. Let's share some more MCC
war/peace stories.
Rockin' Ricardo
Sorry, I dropped the ball, after ANADIR FOTO, click on BROWZE, then
you have to know where you foto is located on your computer. I just
put what I want to send on the desktop, at the most five doesn't
clutter it up too much. When you select the photo, it will signify on
the instructions at Yahoo, follow whatever else is required, just
don't forget to hit ANADIR, or your efforts won't be seen, and you'll
have to start all over again. Don Retardo
Ricardo y anexas,
Finalmente! To tell the truth, I had already tried multiple times
doing exactly what you outlined to post a foto, with no luck...again
tried a few times today, then had the bright idea of creating a new
album...that did the trick... So there is one new pic at J.Jed...
I have always found posting photos rather self-explanatory. I just
posted a new one to my "Fotos- No MCC" album and everything works the
same as it has in past years. It does require a rudimentary knowledge
of the Spanish language but, hey, didn't all you folks study in Mexico?
Bob Quilitch sent this remail. I directed him to the UDLAP alumni web
site, but a directory was nowhere apparent? What happened to
it??? Quinn:
"Hello,
I graduated from MCC in 1963 with a BA in Spanish Language and
Literature. I'd like to look up some friends. Does anyone maintain an
alumni directory for MCC?
Thanks,
Bob Quilitch
Reno, Nevada"
http://www.udlap.mx/egresados/Default.aspx
Hola, The URL above will get you to the UDLAP alumni (egresados) page,
which has a MCC directorio to the left...in the inimitable paraphrased
woids of Sarcastic Sam y Alfonso Bedoya, "No hablan el calo pinches
gringoes? Que les pasa, gueyes (Barry-San's spelling)? Yo no necesito
ningun pinche ingles, hablo...algo de Acayucan!"
Greetings:
Diana Anhalt's ³A Gathering of Fugitives:
American Political Expatriates in Mexico 1947-1965²
is now on line as a FREE e-book in a printable version at:
http://www.archer-books.com
(OR)
http://www.archer-books.com/gof.html
A facinating read into the history of the MCC era..
Quinn
On Dec 21, 2006, at 8:10 PM, quinnjm wrote:
>
> Diana Anhalt's ³A Gathering of Fugitives:
> American Political Expatriates in Mexico 1947-1965²
> is now on line as a FREE e-book in a printable version at:
>
> http://www.archer-books.com
> (OR)
> http://www.archer-books.com/gof.html
>
> A facinating read into the history of the MCC era..
>
> Quinn
Thanks for this. I read a few pages and it looks interesting.
I downloaded the pdf file and it handles nicely.
Denny
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